The pummeling came during a discussion of comments George Bush made concerning appeasement
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http://hardblogger.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/16/1032033.aspx
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Bush slaps 'appeasement'; Obama takes offense
By Dion Nissenbaum and David Lightman | McClatchy Newspapers
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/37166.html
Matthews asked supporter of President Bush's comments, Kevin James, to explain his own reference in support of Bush who had referenced Nazi appeasement.
What did Neville Chamberlain do in Munich? Matthews asks guest James... over and over, for about five minutes. James could not answer, and instead continued his refrain about the statement Bush made.
Matthews got heated, and repeatedly said Kevin James did not know what Chamberlain did.
Asks Kevin James again, James admits he did.
Then Matthews explains, appeasement isn't talking, Chamberlain gave the half of Czechoslovakia away, that's what he did. don't speak about something you don't know anything about, he said.
Biden says read Richard Clarke's book.
James says read Path to 9/11.
Matthews says it seems to me Bush was in command when the Cole incident happened... you don't understand what appeasement is, it's not talking to the enemy, it's giving away things to the enemy...
(We'll have to check the Cole incident. Understanding is that happened during the Bill Clinton presidency.)
So Matthews was wrong there with the statement the Cole incident was when Bush was President. It wasn't. It was October 12, 2000...
Uh oh...
The USS Cole bombing was a suicide bombing attack against the U.S. Navy guided missile destroyer USS Cole (DDG 67) on October 12, 2000 while it was harbored in the Yemeni port of Aden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
And, James was right about Bill Clinton's approach to dealing with the World Trade Center bombings in '93
An Unheeded Warning
When al Qaeda attacked the World Trade Center in 1993, Bill Clinton shrugged.
by RICHARD MINITER
Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:01 a.m. EDT
(Editor's note: This is excerpted from "Losing bin Laden: How Bill Clinton's Failures Unleashed Global Terror," which you can buy from the OpinionJournal bookstore.)
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004081
See Laurie Milroie's awesome work on that topic as well.
It's just too bad in his haste to chastize Kevin James for not knowing what Chamberlain did, Matthews didn't take a step back and look at the larger overall picture of what was going on with James' presentation.
Instead of the transcript being filled with you don't know, you don't know, it could have been filled with a decent back and forth.
Of course, after outing James for his lack of facts...
James is a (conservative) radio talk show host???
Search results
http://www.google.com/search?q=kevin+james+hardball&btnG=Search&hl=en
youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1wSZBTAXRs
Entertaining discussion
http://scotchandpolitics.com/2008/5/16/comedy-friday-kevin-james-on-hardball
Chris Matthews Eviscerates Right-Wing Host Kevin James Over Obama "Appeasement" Claims May 15, 2008 06:27 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/15/hardball-shoutfest-matthe_n_102020.html
(Net the Truth Online)
Britain's Munich Pact with Germany
In the early morning hours of September 30, 1938, British and French prime ministers Neville Chamberlain and Edouard Daladier signed the Munich Pact with Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, thus giving... In the early morning hours of September 30, 1938, British and French prime ministers Neville Chamberlain and Edouard Daladier signed the Munich Pact with Nazi leader Adolf Hitler, thus giving Czechoslovakia away to German conquest. Daladier abhorred this appeasement of the Nazis, but Chamberlain was elated, and even stayed behind in Munich to sign a single-page document with Hitler that he believed assured the future of Anglo-German peace. Later that day, Chamberlain flew home to Britain, where he read the document before a jubilant crowd in London and praised the Munich Pact for bringing ''peace in our time.'' The next day, Germany annexed Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland, and by March of 1939, nearly all of Czechoslovakia was under German control. On September 1, 1939, fifty-three German army divisions invaded Poland despite British and French threats to intervene on the nation's behalf...
http://www.truveo.com/Neville-Chamberlain-praises-Britains-Munich-Pact/id/3589618978
More
http://www.grolier.com/wwii/wwii_chamber.html
September 7, 2006
About Those Nazi Appeasers
Bush Family Values
By MICHAEL DONNELLY
It's astonishing to see how desperate our homegrown fascists have become. The entire cabal is in full-on media blitz mode with Rummy, Dick and Theodosius, er, Bush slamming their foreign opponents with the latest absurd tag "Islamic Fascists;" and, their domestic ones as "Nazi appeasers." Or, in the deranged mind of Condi Rice; domestic opponents are tantamount to folks who would have stopped the Civil War and allowed slavery to continue in the South.
It's not just desperate; it's monumentally moronic, given the real history. This bizarre trip on the Wayback Machine demands a deeper look--though don't look to the mainstream media. Given the opening, one would think that everyone by now would be fully informed that the Bush Family took "Nazi appeasement" to far greater heights and were actually part of an American faction of documented Nazi SUPPORTERS.
http://www.counterpunch.org/donnelly09072006.html
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_2108.cfm
BUSH BEGINS MEXICO APPEASEMENT…
[“An Immigration Munich” – let VDARE hereby be the first to name what seems likely to be another Day That Will Live In Infamy: the upcoming February 16 U.S.-Mexico summit. The difference is that Munich allowed Britain to re-arm.]
By Sam Francis
http://www.vdare.com/francis/fox_01.htm
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