Monday, Feb. 25, 2008
Fox News Channel panel discussing Hillary Clinton's quote of the week "Shame on You, Barack Obama, shame on you..." for those mailers of Obama's about her healthcare plan, and NAFTA...
Bob Beckel: the mailer has been out now for weeks, over a month, why criticize them now - it's a long stretch...
Andrea calls the effort by Hilary Clinton shows she's the grumpy mother
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Why is Hillary Clinton so late in going on the attack about a mailer from the Obama campaingn? The mailer has been circulating for how long (Feb. 4 is date of a factcheck.org post and article)? Clinton had ample opportunity to make sure everyone understood her healthcare plan particulars just this past Thursday, during the CNN sponsored debate in Austin. (The CNN debate will be rebroadcast tonight 8 PM)
Health care key topic in Austin Democratic debate
Obama reiterated the charge her plan is a mandate and one that even applies to those who could not afford it, with the potential for stiff penalties for non-compliance.
Obama even mentioned the Massachusetts plan for healthcare which is mandated and with its according to him resultant fines and problems of enforcement.
Clinton had ample opportunity to demonstrate the internal workings of every facet of her plan to a live audience and millions of CNN late evening viewers.
Instead, she uttered lines about Obama "lifting whole passages" which she pressed to the point of delusion, and which brought jeers from the wholly Democrat audience. Clinton: Obama 'change you can Xerox'
Instead, it appears Hillary Clinton is showing a spite-ing mode that may become her trademark and swan song.
But she's using similar tactics as previously done.
Carl Bernstein tagged the Clintons' approach to Obama as psychological warfare.
Her campaign launched a website http://www.delegatehub.com/ to promote her version of how delegates should be distributed, yet the 'agent of change' said nary a word during her face-to-face with Barack Obama in Austin when a question about super-delegates arose.
Democrats Playing by the Rules?
Her tactics don't appear to be changing from those she's distanced herself from, but nonetheless, somehow occur without her knowledge or approval.
Nazi reference by Clinton supporter repudiated by her campaign
By Hill Truth | The Hillary Project
Hillary Clinton Losing Reasons to Vote for Her
Obama's poll numbers in Texas are a dead heat to Clinton's. He's narrowing a 7 point lead of Clinton's in Ohio.
Now all Hillary Clinton can swing in her arms is Obama's wrong about her plan and should be ashamed.
HRC: 'Shame on you, Barack Obama' By: Kenneth P. Vogel Feb 23, 2008 01:32 PM EST
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8648.html
doesn't that sound a bit "oldish?" We'd say spinsterish if she weren't married. On second thought, they are SPINsterish.
They're also childish. "Shame on you," to a grown man who after all, is a United States Senator.
If the comment had been made of her, she'd be screaming that's patronizing.
But how can she argue her healthcare plan is not "mandated" on everybody, or else? It's the or else part she's been evasive about.
She obviously ducked the question during a interview when ABC's George Stephanopoulos asked her about wage-garnishing three times. But according to the CNSNEWS report, she didn't rule out garnishing wages.
Clinton May Garnish Wages to Achieve Universal Health Care
Obama's stolen Clinton's base.
When she begins to charge another Democrat with Karl-Rove-like tactics, she must know the laughter it will evoke?
“Meet me in Ohio. Let’s have a debate about your tactics,” she said, calling the mailings "tactics that are right out of Karl Rove’s playbook."
OK Hillary, we can hear it now, during the next debate (MSNBC Feb. 28th) you say: your flyer, Obama, you should be ashamed of yourself, it's straight from Karl-Rove's playbook.
When you hear the resulting booing, Hillary, what will your conciliatory ending be this time?
The last one made you sound like the "schoolgirl kid."
"I am honored, absolutely, honored to be here with Barack Obama," the ... the... the next... next... next... ?
Rasmussen: Barack Obama 80% Chance Democrat Nomination
(Net the Truth Online)
New York Times Politics Blog February 23, 2008, 1:24 pm
Clinton Slams Obama Tactics
By Julie Bosman
CINCINNATI – Accusing the Obama campaign of using tactics “that are right out of Karl Rove’s playbook,” Senator Hillary Clinton angrily denounced Senator Barack Obama on Saturday for sending flyers to Ohio voters that she called misleading and false. “Shame on you, Barack Obama,” Mrs. Clinton said at a news conference after a morning rally, holding the flyers and shaking them in the air as she spoke. “It is time you ran a campaign consistent with your messages in public. That’s what I expect from you. Meet me in Ohio. Let’s have a debate about your tactics and your behavior in this campaign.”
The flyers were handed to Mrs. Clinton by a woman who attended the rally and then approached her on the rope line after Mrs. Clinton’s speech.
It was not the first time the Clinton campaign has seen the flyer,
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/23/clinton-slams-obama-tactics/
Doyle, Kennedy Criticize Clinton Flyer As Negative Campaigning
Clinton's Campaign Hasn't Responded To Criticisms
POSTED: 7:05 pm CST February 17, 2008
Doyle and Kennedy are among the Democrats who have endorsed Barack Obama, Clinton's opponent for the Democratic presidential nomination. The two are critical of a flier the Clinton campaign sent out this weekend claiming that Obama's health care plan would leave 15 million Americans without coverage and waste billions of dollars, WISC-TV reported.
Kennedy said he was shocked her campaign would put out a flier that relies on "fear-mongering."
http://www.channel3000.com/editorials/15327692/detail.html
Clinton, Obama Split On Insurance Mandate
By LAURA MECKLER
February 23, 2008; Page A5
The Illinois senator has hit the point hard in fliers mailed to voters' homes and in a televised debate Thursday night. "In order for you to force people to get health insurance, you've got to have a very harsh, stiff penalty. And Sen. Clinton has said that we will go after their wages," Mr. Obama said during the debate broadcast on CNN...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120373195894587623.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Obama's Health-Care Flier
Obama mailer on Clinton health care plan lacks context.
By Jess Henig | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Feb 4, 2008 | Updated: 4:56 p.m. ET Feb 4, 2008
Obama for America Mailer:
Hillary's health care plan forces everyone to buy insurance, even if you can't afford it. Is that the best we can do for families struggling with high health care costs?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/107897
February 4, 2008
Check Point
In Health Debate, Clinton Remains Vague on Penalties
By KEVIN SACK
Correction Appended
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton inched closer Sunday to explaining how she would enforce her proposal that everyone have health insurance, but declined to specify — as she has throughout the campaign — how she would penalize those who refuse.
Mrs. Clinton, who did not answer Senator Barack Obama’s question on the topic in a debate last Thursday, was pressed repeatedly to do so Sunday by George Stephanopoulos on the ABC program “This Week.” When Mr. Stephanopoulos asked a third time whether she would garnish people’s wages, Mrs. Clinton responded, “George, we will have an enforcement mechanism, whether it’s that or it’s some other mechanism through the tax system or automatic enrollments.”
She then added that the focus on enforcement clouded a more important point, that her proposal to cover the uninsured was superior to Mr. Obama’s because she would mandate coverage for all, while he would require it only for children.
What might seem a mundane debate over health policy has taken on outsized importance in the approach to Tuesday’s voting because it is one of the few substantive differences between the two leading Democratic presidential candidates.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/04/us/politics/04checkpoint.html?pagewanted=print
February 4, 2008, 11:02 am
Would Clinton Garnish Wages to Enforce Health Plan?
Posted by Shirley S. Wang
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/02/04/would-clinton-garnish-wages-to-enforce-health-plan/
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