Wednesday, February 20, 2008

Who's Your Agent of Change, Now

After the fairly overwhelming Wisconsin wins of Democrat Barack Obama and uh yeh, Republican John McCain, who's your agent of change, now?

None of the presidential candidates? No matter who wins the Democrat or Republican Party nomination, will either ever be an agent of change, particularly since all front-runners currently are holding an office of trust, now. What change have any of them actually brought about? (insert recommendation)

Is there somebody else out there who will be able to mount a viable challenge from a third political Party? Or will the "independent" voters who appear to be voting in primarily Democrat primaries (and caucuses) forego that potential and go for one or the other of whichever majority-Party nominees surface after national conventions?

Will the illegal aliens, amnesty, the North American Union, NAFTA, former trade agreements, and the like become the defining issues for 2008 pushed by the likes of Lou Dobbs listeners?

Will Dobbs be convinced sometime down the road to run for President?

Will a man, or woman, of the people, by the people, for the people, be someone other than a Republican, Democrat, or a a third-party candidate who may emerge in a few months, after the dust has settled?

Are there any indications voters are frustrated with the choices they have now?

It doesn't look like it, but you never know, things could change depending on the kind of change Americans truly want.

Or some unexpected event could occur.

At stake on March 4: Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas, and Vermont.

April 22, Pennsylvania.

As events unfold after that and onward, don't leave out of the equation a third-Party challenger.

A precipitating event for such may occur, we're predicting.

(Net the Truth Online)

Clinton pals chair Dem credentials panel
Hillary has close ties to leaders who could decide fate of her campaign

UPI Report

Clinton Campaign Sets Up Website to Push to Change the Rules:
Political Punch
Power, pop, and probings from ABC News Senior National Correspondent Jake Tapper
February 20, 2008 8:49 AM

This morning brings the news that the campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, has launched a new website where they are announcing how they are officially preparing to make the case that the rules of the Democratic nomination process should be changed...

But there's a difference between pressuring/lobbying/strongly suggesting that superdelegates follow the will of regular delegates -- that ultimately will be decided by each individual superdelegate -- and trying to change the rules of the nominating process.

The Clinton camp is now calling 2208 "the number required for a candidate to secure the nomination with Florida and Michigan included."

But that's not the number.

According to the DNC, the number is 2025. And Florida and Michigan don’t get included.

The three chairs of the Democratic Convention Credentials Committee, which will decide this Michigan and Florida morass, all worked in the administration of Bill Clinton: Former Secretary of Labor Alexis Herman, Social Security Administration associate commissioner James Roosevelt Jr., and White House travel consultant Eliseo Roques-Arroyo, as noted yesterday by the Washington Times.

More and more, this reminds me of the Florida recount.

Don't like the rules? Change the rules.

Count every vote -- except the ones for the other guy.

site Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President

Clinton Spokesperson Rules Out Pursuit Of Obama's Pledged Delegates
By Greg Sargent - February 19, 2008, 10:55AM
Hillary spokesperson Phil Singer is adamantly denying a report this morning in The Politico quoting an anonymous campaign official suggesting that the Clinton campaign will pursue Obama's pledged delegates. Singer sends me this:

We have not, are not and will not pursue the pledged delegates of Barack Obama. It's now time for the Obama campaign to be clear about their intentions.

February 20, 2008
Clinton campaign launches new offensive on delegate counting
Posted: 01:15 PM ET

Hillary Clinton's campaign launched a new Web site Wednesday designed to convey its argument about how delegates should be counted — the campaign’s latest offensive against Barack Obama's contention that the candidate with the most pledged delegates should win the party's nomination.

The new Web site lists five of the Clinton team’s disputed views on delegates, including the ideas that Florida and Michigan's delegates should be seated at the convention despite party sanctions and that there is a "clear path" for Clinton to finish the race with more delegates than Obama.

The Web site also argues that superdelegates — or what the Clinton campaign is now calling “automatic delegates” — should not look to the primary season vote when deciding which candidate to support, stating, "The fact is: no automatic delegate is required to cast a vote on the basis of anything other than his or her best judgment about who is the most qualified to be president."

According to CNN's latest estimate, Obama has earned 143 more pledged delegates than Clinton. But Clinton currently has the support of 73 more superdelegates – which translates into an overall deficit of 70 delegates.

Speaking with reporters Wednesday morning, Obama campaign manager David Plouffe repeated the campaign's contention that the candidate with the most pledged delegates should win the nomination, and said is nearly impossible for Clinton to catch up in that count.

February 19th, 2008 6:58 PM Eastern
Pledged Delegate Flap
by Major Garrett

Obama’s delegate lead shifts focus of campaign
Clinton camp ready to take potentially incendiary steps to build up count
By Adam Nagourney
updated 2:07 a.m. ET, Thurs., Feb. 14, 2008

WASHINGTON - Senator Barack Obama emerged from Tuesday’s primaries leading Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton by more than 100 delegates, a small but significant advantage that Democrats said would be difficult for Mrs. Clinton to make up in the remaining contests in the presidential nomination battle.

Neither candidate is expected to win the 2,025 pledged delegates needed to claim the nomination by the time the voting ends in June. But Mr. Obama’s campaign began making a case in earnest on Wednesday that if he maintained his edge in delegates won in primaries and caucuses, he would have the strongest claim to the backing of the 796 elected Democrats and party leaders known as superdelegates who are free to vote as they choose and who now stand to determine the outcome.

Obama camp slams Clinton ‘lunacy'

By: Mike Allen
Feb 20, 2008 11:20 AM EST
Updated: February 20, 2008 11:54 AM EST

The Clinton campaign on Wednesday opened a new website, The Delegate Hub, to push its case about delegate counting.

Plouffe said Clinton aides “keep offering alternative theories for why they can win the nomination that have nothing to do with the votes that are happening in these contests.”

Hillary Clinton Campaign Position On Pledged Delegates
2/19/2008 11:36:27 AM

There are inaccurate reports today about how the Hillary Clinton campaign intends to pursue the nomination. Here is our official position:

We have not, are not and will not pursue the pledged delegates of Barack Obama. It's now time for the Obama campaign to be clear about their intentions.

Lou Dobbs to Enter Race?
By David Knowles
Nov 16th 2007 8:54AM

Man of the people
Yes, he’s a long shot, but no other independent “candidate” has Lou Dobbs’s potential, platform, or populist appeal
November 14, 2007 6:02:50 PM

...More important, of course, is the public’s mood and its disconnect with the current campaign. Confidence in both parties is near record lows. The economy may be tanking. Illegal immigration is the hot topic of the moment. Yet the major candidates are all running on platforms and platitudes geared to a nation satisfied with the two major parties. No one, seemingly, is listening to the average-but-angry voter...

Lou Dobbs: Independent Will Win in Nov.
Wednesday, November 7, 2007 10:43 AM
By: Newsmax Staff

CNN’s Lou Dobbs says Americans are in for a “November surprise” next year – voters will elect as president an independent candidate who has not yet entered the race.

The host of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” writes in an online commentary: “One year from now, we will have elected a new president. As eager as I am for that reality, I can’t imagine any one of the current candidates for their party’s nomination being chosen by the American people to lead this nation for the next four years.

“I believe the person elected a year from now will be an independent populist, a man or woman who understands the genius of this country lies in the hearts and minds of its people and not in the prerogatives and power of its elites.”

Dobbs, whose new book is “Independents Day: Awakening the American Spirit,” goes on to say: “I believe that independent Americans will demand a far better choice than any of the candidates now seeking their party’s nomination. I believe next November’s surprise will be the election of a man or woman of great character, vision and accomplishment, a candidate who has not yet entered the race.”

Lou Dobbs Tonight
Campaign Happenings; U.S.-Iran Showdown; Mexican Drug War; More Mortgage Meltdown Casualties Aired January 7, 2008

And Independent voters will determine who wins this presidential election. We'll have that special report on the rising backlash against political orthodoxy, partisanship and conventional wisdom.

Viewpoint Blogger for Civil Discourse poses

An agent of change

Is that really the way things are though? Are liberals really agents of change? Are conservatives really agents of stagnation?

Perhaps it's time for a conservative revolution again. Maybe it's time to stop talking about all of the things we're "against", and start talking about what we stand "for". Maybe it's time to take back the language. I think that a true conservative is really an agent of change, and that it's time we express it that way...

McCain Rips 'Eloquent But Empty' Obama
February 19, 2008 9:51 PM

ABC News' Ron Claiborne and Teddy Davis Report: Arizona Sen. John McCain unveiled a new line of attack against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., following his Tuesday win in Wisconsin's Republican primary.

"I will work hard to make sure Americans aren't deceived by an eloquent but empty call for change," said McCain.

The presumed Republican nominee also knocked his likely Democratic opponent by taking a shot at the "confused leadership of an inexperienced candidate."

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