Thursday, March 13, 2008

Discharge Petitition Enters Record on Illegal Immigration

Last night's Lou Dobbs Tonight featured a discussion of a little known procedure in the U.S. House of Representatives that can be used to move ignored legislation from the depths of Congress out into the open.

During the segment: SAVE Act Cracks Down on Illegal ImmigrationDobbs interviewed a pair of U.S. Congressmen who were supporting the discharge motion.

Congressman Brian Bilbray and Congressman Heath Shuler.

CNN's Glenn Beck featured one of the representatives, Democrat Shuler.

What usually happens with legislation stuck in one committee or another? It dies for lack of any activity.

These congressmen aren't going to see that happen. The discharge motion is a way to show the public who in Congress actually supports the SAVE Act and who doesn't. If enough signatures on the petition are obtained the measure goes automatically to the full House of Representatives for an up or down vote.

Contact your representatives and urge to sign the discharge order for the SAVE Act.

According to the interview with Glenn Beck, Rep. Heath Shuler is on the record stating there are no hidden gimmicks in the Act to allow for a path to 'citizenship' for illegal aliens.

According to both congressmen on Dobbs' program, the discharge petition has 168 signatures to date.

Needed to get the Act on the floor of the House of Representatives for a vote, 218 or more.

Numbers USA keeping track of the discharge petition for the SAVE Act

On the other hand, read this opposing view

IS SAVE ACT UN-CONSTITUTIONAL? - Event Date: Mar/03/2008 - Mar/10/2008

(Net the Truth Online)

SAVE Act Discharge Petition Introduced
(March 11) The Washington Times is reporting that House Republican leaders will endorse a discharge petition this afternoon for the enforcement-only SAVE Act (Secure America with Verification Enforcement; H.R. 4088). That petition was introduced this morning by Rep. Thelma Drake (R-Va.).

If the petition collects 218 House signatures, a simple majority, the bill can bypass the committee process and be placed on the House floor for a vote, regardless of any objections by Democratic leaders. That bill -- with 151 bi-partisan signers in the House and Senate -- would drive millions of illegal aliens out of their jobs by requiring mandatory employment eligibility verification.

Bilbray Praises Efforts to Bring Immigration Reform Bill to House Floor
Posted by: Leslie Shedd | 03/11/2008 12:40 PM

March 11, 2008

Washington, D.C. -The Secure America with Verification and Enforcement Act (SAVE Act), a tough bipartisan immigration reform bill that has the solid backing of Congressman Brian Bilbray, could be coming to the House floor for consideration soon following a decision today by Republican leaders to launch a discharge petition. If the discharge petition is signed by 218 members of Congress (a majority), the SAVE Act would be "discharged" from committee consideration and taken up by the full House of Representatives.

Lou Dobbs Tonight
March 12, 2008
DOBBS: The SAVE Act is a bipartisan effort to strengthen enforcement of our immigration laws and borders. It's making its way through the House despite Democratic leadership efforts to stall it out in committee.

A discharged petition has been filed and if a majority of house members sign on, that bill will go toot floor regardless of efforts to block it. The SAVE Act introduced by Congressman Heath Shuler and Congressman Bilbray, joining us tonight.

Gentlemen, good to have you with us. The discharge position, 163 signatures already. Do you think you're going to be able to overcome leadership obstacles to get it voted on? REP. BRIAN BILBRAY (R), CALIFORNIA: First of all, this is the only way to overcome leadership obstacles. We've tagged this operation offensive line in honor of the quarterback here that we're blocking for but it's a great start. I've been around in congress since '95 and I've never seen a discharge be able to get so much support so quickly. It's a compliment to our quarterback Heath Shuler.

glenn Beck

Aired March 12, 2008 - 19:00:00 ET
...They`re using a rare procedural motion to move it forward. I just -- I do have a news flash for Washington. The American people don`t care about the election year. They don`t care about the procedural motion or anything else. We want our borders secured, and we`d like it done, oh, I don`t know, about four years ago.

If a Democrat can deliver it, great. I`m the first one to shake their hand. A Republican, great. Independent, Ron Paul, I don`t care. Get it done.

Former NFL player and North Carolina Congressman Heath Shuler, this is the guy who introduced SAVE Act last year.

And first of all, tell me about the bill, because I`m always afraid of these bills. You know, somewhere in the middle of the bill is, like, oh, yeah, by the way, the Constitution no longer exists.

REP. HEATH SHULER (D), NORTH CAROLINA: Well, Glenn, I don`t think we`ll have to worry about this. It`s truly a bipartisan bill.

When we dropped the SAVE Act, we had 25 Democrats and 25 Republicans on the bill. We went and did a press conference. People said that they had been watching tough issues, especially the immigration issue. And they never thought they`d have a bill that would actually have so much bipartisan support.

BECK: Any path to citizenship in this?

SHULER: No path to citizenship.

BECK: None?

SHULER: None whatsoever.

BECK: Nobody -- what do we do with the citizens -- or the non- citizens that are here that are here illegally?

SHULER: Well, it will be self-deportation. It`s -- with an employer verification piece, using eVerify, a program that will be phased in over three years that, you know, when people can`t find employment and they`re fined from the employer`s side, if they actually have someone employed that has -- that is here illegally, then it`s fined by the employer.

But it will also -- the people who do have legal status, that they`ll be able to take the burden off the employer to decide whether or not the information that the employee is handing to them is correct by using the Social Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

BECK: There`s got to be something to this, because this is starting to make too much sense that it`s coming from Washington.

Now, McCain is the guy who says, oh, I know now, I`ve got it. I`ve got it from -- no, I heard this time. This one has no path to citizenship. This is exactly the kind of bill that he should support.

Have you heard, is he for this bill?

SHULER: Well, we`ve actually reached out to all the presidential candidates and asked them to endorse this bill.

BECK: Any of them?

SHULER: No. So far we -- not a surprise, but no one has actually endorsed this bill from the presidential side.

BECK: Right. OK.

And you`re going up against Nancy Pelosi. She doesn`t want this introduced now. What`s it like going after Nancy Pelosi being a Democrat? Are you getting a lot of heat for it?

SHULER: Well, I think you have to look at it. Why were you -- you know, why was I elected to the U.S. House to go represent my district and represent the American people? And, you know, this is -- far too much is both leaderships, both Democrats and Republicans, use this as a political tool. And it`s time to get some common sense about it and start doing what`s right for the American people and doing what`s right for America in general.

And we`re playing too much partisan politics. And so I want to make sure -- I`m going to do whatever it takes.

BECK: Heath -- Congressman, I have to tell you -- I`ve got to cut you off here, but I`ve got to tell you, I`m a conservative, but you know what? I`m looking for politicians like you. I don`t know much about you, sir, but I`m going to look into you.

That`s exactly -- you`re exactly the kind of politician I think Americans are looking for, someone who says, screw the parties, man. Let`s do the right thing for the country.

SHULER: Absolutely.

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