Just ask yourself: Upon taking office which of the two majority-party candidates for President of the United States will present an executive order denying any deployment of US military brigade/s on United States soil in order to help local authorities quell civil unrest or crowd control at some future time, if necessary?
which one?
Hmm. Well now, there's plausible deniability... wouldn't be used to quesll civil unrest, would they?
NorthCom Denies Troops To Be Used For Crowd Control
But admits that Army will have access to weapons and tanks during homeland patrols
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
October 2, 2008
As we highlighted last week, a September 8 Army Times report stated that active duty troops from the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team returning from Iraq would be on call as a “federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks,” for a period of 12 months from October 1st.
The purpose of the unit’s patrols, according to the article, includes helping “with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.”
However, a NorthCom official, presumably responding to reports featured on this website and others, publicly denies that troops will be used to police Americans...
The original Army Times report also stated that the use of non-lethal weapons against Americans would be a possibility, but a retraction has now been issued stating that the forces would not use nonlethal weaponry domestically...
http://noworldsystem.com/category/posse-comitatus/
Previous Posting
Senators John McCain and Barack Obama abstained on enacting the funding for the National Defense Authorization Act, as did Senator Hillary Clinton. Senator Joe Biden voted yes.
Senate Roll Call Action
http://www.opencongress.org/roll_call/show/3030
President Bush signed into law and later issued a signing act pertaining to the National Defense Reauthorization Act
According to Glen Greenwald
Glen Greenwald
Wednesday Sept. 24, 2008 12:26 EDT
Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
(updated below - Update II)
Several bloggers today have pointed to this obviously disturbing article from Army Times, which announces that "beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the [1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division] will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North" -- "the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities." The article details:
...UPDATE: As this commenter notes, the 2008 National Defense Authorization Act somewhat limited the scope of the powers granted by the 2007 Act detailed above (mostly to address constitutional concerns by limiting the President's powers to deploy the military to suppress disorder that threatens constitutional rights), but President Bush, when signing that 2008 Act into law, issued a signing statement which, though vague, seems to declare that he does not recognize those new limitations...
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/24/army/
http://www.infowars.com/?p=4831
Greenwald references
Posse Comiwhatus?
Radley Balko | September 24, 2008
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128987.html
Greenwald cites and links to the Army Times report
Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Sep 30, 2008 16:16:12 EDT
The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.
Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.
Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.
It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.
But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one...
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
Notice the correction at the bottom of the Army times report
Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Sep 30, 2008 16:16:12 EDT
Correction:
A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
Say what?
Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Sep 30, 2008 16:16:12 EDT
The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.
In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.
They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.
Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.
The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
The package is for use only in war-zone operations, not for any domestic purpose.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
Now reread that correction.
Correction:
A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
so we won't be getting the non-lethal version of crowd control here in the USA?
Raises questions and references provided
Democracy in Action
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/2165/t/1027/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=26045
Meanwhile, pay attention to the particulars in this discussion.
Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« on: September 24, 2008
http://forum.kucinich.us/index.php?topic=552.0
If neither John McCain nor Barack Obama upon taking office would initiate an executive order to reverse the Bush position on the National Defense Authorization Act, and pull the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 3rd Infantry Division's new domestic mission, then who among the Third Party candidates for President would? Which of the independents would?
the answer may lead to the undecideds choosing somebody... rather than write-in nobody (some variation thereof, like Nobuldy) or None of the Above...
Summary of the Act
National Defense Authorization Act for the Fiscal Year 2009
Submitted by Jim Backlin on September 10, 2008
http://www.cc.org/blog/national_defense_authorization_act_fiscal_year_2009
Posse Comitatus & Crossing our Rubicon
October 4th, 2008
...Regardless, our Congress is now quite wary of the President’s ridiculous theories of the “unitary executive.” If Bush were to move on this, a Congressional wrist-slap would be instantaneous, and any crisis would be over before it began. Know your rights, stay informed, and bring this to the public’s attention. That’s all there is to do now.
Except, perhaps, vote for the guy whose ideas on executive power would find this sort of thing repulsive... (Obama And The Unitary Executive http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jayne-lyn-stahl/obama-and-the-unitary-exe_b_119567.html)
http://www.acandidworld.net/2008/10/04/posse-comitatus-crossing-our-rubicon/
Unfortunately, Jayne Lyn Stahl’s article is mistitled. I read it hoping against hope that Obama had made campaign promises that he would deconstruct the unitary executive edifice created by Bush and Cheney and Yoo and others. Instead, Obama is hardly mentioned at all. As a former President of Harvard Law Review, as a former instructor in constitutional law, Obama must have SOME opinions in this area but none are apparent in this article. I did keep it tho, to remind myself what to look for when Obama is elected. (from posting on acandidworld.net)
http://www.acandidworld.net/2008/10/04/posse-comitatus-crossing-our-rubicon/
Known as
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008
To provide for the enactment of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, as previously enrolled, with certain modifications to address the foreign sovereign immunities provisions of title 28, United States Code, with respect to the attachment of property in certain judgements against Iraq, the lapse of statutory authorities for the payment of bonuses, special pays, and similar benefits for members of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h4986/show
The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team Homeland tours start Oct. 1 by paulwar on Sep-20-08
http://www.zimbio.com/82nd's+1st+Brigade/articles/102/3rd+Infantry+Division+1st+Brigade+Combat+Team
“Invasion of the Sea-Smurfs”
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/2008/10/2/amy_goodmans_latest_column_invasion_of_the_sea_smurfs
Chuck Baldwin
U.S. ARMY TROOPS TO SERVE AS U.S. POLICEMEN?
By Chuck Baldwin
October 1, 2008
NewsWithViews.com
According to the Army Times (dated Tuesday, September 30, 2008), "Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT [Brigade Combat Team] will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks."
The article continued by saying, "But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
"After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one."
The Times column also reported that the Army brigade "may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control . . ." It seems that the Army's new domestic duties also include "traffic control" as well as subduing "unruly or dangerous individuals."
The brigade will be known for the next year as a Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced "sea-smurf").
http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin472.htm
Brigade begins Homeland deployments Oct 1; Army has Ray Gun for riot/crowd control
By Lietta Ruger
Wed Sep 24, 2008 at 11:09:13 AM PST
Section: Diary Topic: Military
U.S. Army battalion troops deploy to - well U.S.A.! And U.S. Army has a Ray Gun. Reading these two items together and one could wonder why U.S. active Army battalion needs to deploy to non-combat zones on America homeland soil, while state level National Guard troops need to deploy to combat zones in Iraq. And one could wonder about this scenario as well. U.S. Army being aware of and urgently requesting the non-lethal Ray Gun for use in Iraq and Afghanistan was denied permission. Weapon shown to be effective in riot and crowd control via practice demonstrations using people acting as 'peace protesters'.
at Army Times; Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1, 2008.
http://www.washblog.com/story/2008/9/24/14913/1227
How they voted on other measures more enlightenment
Obama
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/ernestkarhu/gGgYjS
McCain
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/m000303/
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