Tuesday, November 18, 2008

World Net Daily: Wants Obama Birth Certificate Ploy

Where's the birth certificate? Joseph Farah adding his voice to the chorus of Alan Keyes, and WND author, Jerome Corsi, and Phillip Berg.

A WND piece 'Constitutional crisis' looming over Obama's birth location ignores the kind of information the Chicago Tribune apparently had an easy enough time in obtaining.

Alan Keyes lawsuit warns America may see 'usurper' in Oval Office
Posted: November 14, 2008
By Bob Unruh
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Alan Keyes
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others...


Have any of them bothered to maybe read factcheck.org, politifact.com, and the Chicago Tribune reports of findings?

Maybe these people have a new book or two to plug and travel expenses to pay for?

Newsmax entered the field with a piece entitled "Smears About Obama Largely True."

Unfortunately, Newsmax cites a source who has not been id'd... talk about potential motive to lie...


A WND contributer, Janet Porter in 1 last chance to fight for our Constitution

If only one parent was an American citizen, as in Obama's case, the law at the time of Obama's birth required one parent to have been an American citizen for at least 10 years – five of which had to have happened after the age of 14. Since Obama's mother was only 18 at the time of Obama's birth, he would not qualify as an American citizen if his grandmother is right about him being born abroad.

Had she read the Chicago Tribune article previously, she wouldn't have made the statement.

While we are all for the facts and truth, too, it's simply a bit disconcerting for this question to keep arising when in the first place, if Obama's original birth certificate had been forged, there would have had to have been over 4 decades of 'somebody' in the know keeping Obama's mother's secret.

Obama already showed his 'birth' papers. A reproduced copy remains on Obama's website


Both factcheck.org and politicfact.com sites investigated the entire situation and maintain the reproduced copy as well.

The Chicago Tribune report should settle the entirety of the matter of Obama's birth, revealing in the report Congress had passed a law that affected births of infants to American parents which may have occurred outside the United States.

The law retroactively applied to years including and following 1952. But geesh, I have to wonder, what if I had been born outside the U.S. to my Italian parents who had come to this open country by way of their parents when they were youths?

What if my parents had taken a trip back to Italy for a few weeks and I was born prematurely? With that cut-off date, there could be some in the over-50 class who would have every reason to hide the particulars of their births.

It's unreasonable as well to expect Obama to have to produce other than what he has already produced to satisfy some conspiratorial theory.

We're all for conspiracy theories, but not when facts to disprove the theories are rampant and accessible. The bar keeps moving, too. The reproduced copy isn't enough for some. They want the actual copy, complete with listing of mother and father and blood (DNA) stamps.

We'd be much more concerned if Obama after he takes the oath of office refuses to issue a report on his own health, and likewise if Joe Biden refused a release of medical records.

If both go around the same time, that would mean Pelosi...

Net the Truth Online

Obama birth certificate rumor debunked
By James Janega | Tribune reporter October 30, 2008
In June, the Obama campaign released an electronic copy of the certificate bearing the seal of the State of Hawaii Department of Health and showing that Barack Hussein Obama II was born to mother Stanley Ann Dunham in Honolulu at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.

Contacted Wednesday, Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo cited Hawaii state privacy laws and guidance from the state attorney general in saying she was not permitted to confirm the authenticity of the certificate released by the Obama campaign.

But she said it appeared similar to other Hawaii birth certificates.

"It looks exactly the same as my own birth certificate," Okubo said.

Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said Wednesday that the document was authentic.

The issue of whether Obama is a "natural born citizen"—a citizen at birth—was raised in a June 10 article on the conservative Web site World Net Daily.

Article II of the U.S. Constitution says, "No Person except a natural born citizen, or a Citizen of the United States ... shall be eligible to the Office of President." Acts of Congress in 1790 and 1795 clarify that "the children of citizens of the United States ... shall be considered as natural born citizens."

Republican candidate John McCain faced, and overcame, similar questions because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone while his Navy father was stationed there.

Hawaii was a state in 1961, when Obama was born. Any person born in the U.S. automatically is a "natural born citizen," said University of California Los Angeles law professor Eugene Volokh.

Even if a person is born outside the United States , courts have ruled any child born to at least one U.S. citizen is a U.S. citizen, Volokh said. Stanley Ann Dunham would have counted even if Obama's Kenyan father did not.

If this becomes an issue in a post-election eligibility challenge, expect a likely sticking point to be the legal definition in 1961 of how parents could be called U.S. citizens for this purpose, Volokh said. At the time Obama was born, the law stated that a person would be considered a "natural born citizen" if either parent was a citizen who had lived at least 10 years in the U.S., including five years after the age of 14—in other words, 19.

Dunham was three months shy of her 19th birthday when Obama was born. But subsequent acts of Congress relaxed the requirement to five years in the U.S. , including just two years after the age of 14, meaning Dunham could have been 16 and still qualified even if Obama was born in another country, Volokh said. Congress made the law retroactive to 1952, doubly covering Obama.

Any legal challenge would have to argue that Congress can't make someone retroactively a citizen at birth, and prove Obama was born outside of the U.S. after all...


...There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion that the candidate’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic.
And that’s true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust.


Born in the U.S.A.
August 21, 2008
Updated: November 1, 2008
The truth about Obama's birth certificate.
In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate to quell speculative charges that he might not be a natural-born citizen. But the image prompted more blog-based skepticism about the document's authenticity. And recently, author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is "fake."

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.

Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii ’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu .
Update Nov. 1: The Associated Press quoted Chiyome Fukino as saying that both she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

Fukino also was quoted by several other news organizations. The Honolulu Advertiser quoted Fukino as saying the agency had been bombarded by requests, and that the registrar of statistics had even been called in at home in the middle of the night.

Honolulu Advertiser, Nov. 1 2008: "This has gotten ridiculous," state health director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said yesterday. "There are plenty of other, important things to focus on, like the economy, taxes, energy." . . . Will this be enough to quiet the doubters? "I hope so," Fukino said. "We need to get some work done."

Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."


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