Friday, June 13, 2008

NYT: Sexism Hurt Hillary Clinton (We Believe?)

Sure it did. The New York Times quotes so. Don't they? It must be true. (Well they don't appear to name any names of those making the claim Sexism was used by the media to diminish Hillary Clinton other than implying Katie Couric is at odds with the refutation of the claim by the Clinton supporters!

They refer to a comment by Candy Crowley, but the comment appears to be two-sided.

The NYT's article begins:

Angered by what they consider sexist news coverage of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, many women and erstwhile Clinton supporters are proposing boycotts of the cable networks, putting up videos on a “Media Hall of Shame,” starting a national conversation about sexism and pushing Mrs. Clinton’s rival, Senator Barack Obama, to address the matter.

MSNBC is discussing the NYT's article. Mika is hosting with Mike Barnacle who she says is mentioned in the NYT's article. She calls Barnacle, Barnacle, and some have said that's sexist. (We think that's Mika being her witty self)

Clinton did not lose this because of sexism. If she was treated differently it was because her last name is Clinton, not because her first is Hillary. (Chuck Todd)

Our sentiments exactly and so well expressed by Chuck Todd.

Crowley comment:

Media and Critics Split Over Sexism in Clinton Coverage

...Candy Crowley, covering the campaign for CNN, said that for the most part, she did not see a drumbeat of sexism in the daily reporting, “but I certainly did see it in the commentary.” Still, Ms. Crowley said, “it was hard to know if these attacks were being made because she was a woman or because she was this woman or because, for a long time, she was the front-runner.”

The NYT's article continues with a refutation of the Clinton supporters' cricitism of sexism by network media.

But many in the news media — with a few exceptions, including Katie Couric, the anchor of the “CBS Evening News” — see little need for reconsidering their coverage or changing their approach going forward. Rather, they say, as the Clinton campaign fell behind, it exploited a few glaring examples of sexist coverage to whip up a backlash and to try to create momentum for Mrs. Clinton.

“I get it, that in this 24-hour media world, you’ve got to be on your game and there’s very little room for mistakes,” Mr. Griffin said. “But the Clinton campaign saw an opportunity to use it for their advantage. They were trying to rally a certain demographic, and women were behind it.”

His views were echoed by other news media figures. “She got some tough coverage at times, but she brought that on herself, whether it was the Bosnian snipers or not conceding on the night of the final primaries,” said Rem Rieder, editor of American Journalism Review. “She had a long track record in public life as a serious person and a tough politician, and she was covered that way.”

Couric's published comments entitled

Uh well, they didn't quote a thing we called her...

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Part 2

Fortunately, for us, Joe Scarborough is absent from the program named for him, Morning Joe. For one month he wasn't around, awaiting the birth of a child. Then late last week he was back on in the morning talking about whatever with Mika and the crew. We switched. Can't take Scarborough since he is a total hypocrite.

He had the opportunity to really do dynamite interviews with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama face to face May 5th. See our coverage of the interview that wasn't.

He didn't say a word when Clinton spoke about the gas tax holiday and said nothing about her interview with Bill O'Reilly previously wherein she invoked the tax climate of the 40s, 50s, and 60s which she said she would employ - some 70 percent on somebody, and she continued to promote determining the amount of profits she calls windfall profits oil companies should be able to make. She'd freeze the profits basically to her idea of what's fair and tax the rest!

If that's not socialism, what is? Yet Scarborough said nothing about socialism while he had either Clinton or Obama face to face.

So when Joe Scarborough is on MSNBC, we simply will not watch.

He probably agrees with the NYTs that Hillary Clinton suffered sexism during her campaign by media people.

Wonder what O'Reilly will say tonight. He's probably crowing about the NYTs outing the sexism by all others but him and Fox News. Another anchor we haven't watched at all after his so-called interview with Hillary Clinton. He pressed somewhat when Clinton made the gas tax holiday - windfall profits comment - but then like a hot potato, he dropped the subject and went on to something else - he spent several minutes on trying to get Hillary to make a comment on Obama's former pastor Rev. Wright, rather than hone in on her gas tax holiday socialism views.

Part 3

Back to Mika and company on MSNBC, they're going to discuss the NYTs article further.

Mika interviewing guest Gail Collins (NYT)

Most mentioned are visiting commentators...

Mika quotes the Barnacle quote

"looking like everyone's first wife standing at probabe court"

Barncacle... should we have a national discussion... maybe... to imply principle reason Clinton's campaign ran aground is ludicrosu... if my remark was sexist you determine... if some statements are stupid... wallpaper with those...

Collins... those women, economic distressed, husbands left them... they are probably the women, the first wives, standing at probate court... the women's situation as a rights' movement not considered like civil rights movement...

Say what? Oh my goodness, how far is Collins willing to go to prove her own points?

We heard Tucker Carlson make the comment attributed to him in the NYT's article, but did not take what he said as sexist, it was the reverse, critiquing Clinton just like he would anybody else evidencing a certain pattern of behavior. Is she not up to the same treatment? That was the question, nobody asked.

None of this is to deny sexism exists and sexist men exist in this day and age. And yes, we should have a national dialogue.

But not a dialogue that rests on Hillary Clinton's charges of sexism against her in her campaign.

While we could perceive Tucker Carlson's comment implying Hillary Clinton is so shrill against men she virtually castrates them, we're sure of one thing. Hillary Clinton will use every avenue, every trick, including psychological warfare for her own political gain.

That she has is the reason Carlson's comment should be perceived as accurate when applied to Hillary Clinton.

Clinton will go the distance, how ever far that is, to make it appear men like Carlson are just saying these things about her in the way they have because they are men.

The fact is men are saying the same thing many women who didn't support Hillary Clinton are saying - it's because Hillary is Hillary we didn't vote for "her."

Clinton should be proud both men and women can say that. But she'd rather use any opportunity to further her own personal cause.

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Critics and News Executives Split Over Sexism in Clinton Coverage
Published: June 13, 2008

Olbermann Hits 'Worst Person' Katie Couric for Charging Anti-Hillary Bias
By Brad Wilmouth | June 12, 2008 - 06:06 ET

All-male Morning Joe panel laughed as Barnicle compared Clinton to “everyone’s first wife standing outside a probate court”

Discussing the most recent Democratic presidential candidates debate on Morning Joe, political and social commentator Mike Barnicle said Sen. Hillary Clinton “look[ed] like everyone’s first wife standing outside a probate court,” eliciting laughter from the all-male panel that featured MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough, Willie Geist, and David Shuster.

Tucker Carlson on Clinton: “[W]hen she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs”
On the July 16 edition of MSNBC’s Tucker, discussing presidential candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), producer Willie Geist described a Clinton doll being advertised at the website that features “serrated stainless steel thighs that, well, crack nuts,” according to Geist. He later asked, “What do you think they’re saying about Hillary?” Host Tucker Carlson replied, “I have often said, when she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs.”

Tucker on Sen. Clinton: “[T]here’s just something about her that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary”

On the March 20 edition of MSNBC’s Tucker, host Tucker Carlson noted that a 1984-inspired attack ad posted on characterizes Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) “as an Orwellian Big Sister” and proceeded to endorse this depiction of Clinton, saying, “But there’s just something about her that feels castrating, overbearing, and scary.” Carlson maintained: “I mean, you’ve gotta admit, when you watch that, it does get right to heart of people’s instinctive problems with Hillary, which don’t have to do with policy.” Carlson further noted that the ad “seems to be the work of one person with a computer who doesn’t like Hillary or, in any case, perceives the truth about her.”

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