Katrina vanden Heuvel: Regional War if Iran Struck

On Morning Joe this morning Katrina vanden Heuvel made some forthright comments about the potential for a strike on Iran. (Fortunately for us, Joe Scarborough was absent from the program. We've discussed his hypocrisy before, and his lack of asking either Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama anything insightful when they were interviewed May 6th... See our posts about Joe's dismal showing.)

The panel discussed the Seymour Hersch article noted at the beginning by Mika...

Preparing the Battlefield
The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran.
by Seymour M. Hersh

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh

http://www.dailygotham.com/blog/daniel_millstone/bomb_bomb_bomb_bomb_bomb_iran_redux

US escalating covert operations against Iran-report
Sun Jun 29, 2008

June 29 (Reuters) - U.S. congressional leaders agreed late last year to President George W. Bush's funding request for a major escalation of covert operations against Iran aimed at destabilizing its leadership, according to a report in The New Yorker magazine published online on Sunday.

The article by reporter Seymour Hersh, from the magazine's July 7 and 14 issue, centers on a highly classified Presidential Finding signed by Bush which by U.S. law must be made known to Democratic and Republican House and Senate leaders and ranking members of the intelligence committees...

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN29358834

Sunday, June 29, 2008
Hersh's New Article on Iran, H.Con. Res. 362, and The March of the NeoCons to November

http://desertbeacon.blogspot.com/2008/06/hershs-new-article-on-iran-hcon-res-362.html

Buchanan referenced a Congressional resolution 362

Google search results

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=h+con+res+362+&btnG=Search

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjnfCd0bLVY

Obama supporter

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/marystange/gG5hN3

Resolution co-sponsor letter

http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:Lcnfp_BcrYcJ:www.aipac.org/Publications/SourceMaterialsCongressionalAction/HConRes362.pdf+h+con+res+362&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=26&gl=us

Yahoo answers

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080627063230AA5lx5s

AIPAC

http://capwiz.com/aipac/issues/bills/?bill=11440736

Drudge Retort

http://www.drudge.com/news/109266/truthout-congress-ok-iran-blockade

DetNews Blog


http://info.detnews.com/redesign/forums/feedback/lettersindex.cfm?forum=newstalk&topic=Mr.%20McEvoy--You%20Omitted%20a%20few%20things%20re%3A--H.CON.RES%20362

vanden Heuvel: ... war within the Administration... Admiral Fallon, basically forced out ... Cheney forces wanted military action Iraq...

Buchanan: what does it tell you this has been leaked to Seymour Hersch

thinks there's resistance by the military... may be responsible for the leak to Hersch... we are undermining possibility of indigenous democracy... a dangerous ploy... action may not be taken til after the election... but talk and engage... that's what Barack Obama talks about... if Bush had listened to Collin Powell at the outset... North Korea... would have been a different world... and a different nuclear arrangement if there was willingness to talk... just talk... not endorsing that regime...

Israel may have it's own timeline... Israel does not lead us in this regard...

it'll be a regional war... if we agree to this strike...

Buchanan HR 362... one part this does not authorize president use force or go to war...part demands blocade of Iran... denial of Iran refined oil goods... stop people going in and out... a call for naval blockade and not just
Bush Republicans, Democrats signing on right and left... AIPAC pushing this as number one priority...

Katrina: ...Not here to defend those democrats pushing this legislation. AIPAC does not represent the majority of views of American Jews... a new group called J-Street far more in sync with desire to build a real secure Israel

Need congressional declaration... cannot undertake this action without support... hearings... Andrew Card manifestation of that on the eve of the war in Iraq do a marketing drive... look how they railroaded this Congress on the war on Iraq... cannot have unfettered power abuse the Constitution...

...got Gates and others... how to build a more stable middle East...

Buchanan ... what if he goes with them and starts bombing these sites... what would the democrats do... think they would go along with it...

Katrina... not many... might have a groundswell... impeachment...

Buchanan: ... have 220 co-sponsors on the bill already... enough to pass it...

Katrina ... majority do not want attack on Iran... are we a dictatorship... a constitutional Democracy... we need a new Decider... someone who understands true values of the country will uphold the rule of law... it's engagement not militarism that has made our country strong...

(unofficial transcript from review of video)

Net the Truth Online

Reference over at DU to youtube video of Katrina's lengthy comments (DU some discussion)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlFO-7vfhJc

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x152914

Iran - H. Con. Res. 362 and S. Res. 580

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=308x699

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