Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Charge Obama Return Pre-911 Mentality Ignores Bush Negligence

While there is tremendous merit to the position there was an existing mentality to treat 1993 World Trade Center bombing "terrorists" as a law enforcement matter, and that was and remains a mistake, just read Laurie Milroie's works, the charge against Barack Obama by John McCain, James Woolsey, and Rudy Giuliani and others "Obama is naive" for his comments about how the 1993 WTC bombing was handled ignores George W. Bush pre-September 11, 2001 intelligence information pertaining to bin Laden and potential to hijack airplanes as later reported Bush was aware of before September 11, 2001.

We're still unsure of exactly when Bush received the report. some reports say August 6th at his Texas Ranch.

And we're still not informed whether the Pentagon had planned mock attacks on September 11, 2001 or thereabouts, using explosives...

By the way, the report was entitled:

Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S.

White House releases bin Laden memo
Presidential briefing was at center of Rice's testimony
Wednesday, May 19, 2004 Posted: 12:22 AM EDT (0422 GMT)

(CNN) -- The White House declassified and released Saturday the daily intelligence briefing delivered to President Bush a month before the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

The declassified intelligence report said the FBI had detected "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings."

The names of countries that supplied the CIA with intelligence have been removed from the memo dealing with Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network and dated August 6, 2001.

April 12, 2004, 2:45pm EDT

An intelligence document submitted to President Bush on Aug. 6, 2001 warned that al-Qaida terrorists already living in the United States could be planning airplane hijackings or the targeting of buildings with explosives, possibly in New York and Washington.

Online NewsHour Special Report:
Investigating 9/11

The White House declassified the document at the request of the 9/11 commission, which was established by Congress to investigate the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks that killed some 3,000 people in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

The document, reportedly prepared by a CIA analyst, was entitled "Bin Laden Determined To Strike in U.S."

How did President George W. Bush handle that information. He didn't.

Nobody ever held George W. Bush accountable for potentially suppressing knowledge of the report and its contents. Bush was never held accountable by the 9/11 Commission on his inaction after receiving the report. Why not?

Happened to turn on Morning Joe even though Scarborough has returned. He's sort of participating in the interview of Ron Paul. (Paul suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination for president)

But it's Mika who presses.

Ron Paul on MSNBC asked about how to treat the terrorists as enemy combatants in the court system or military tribunals?

Paul responds ...Why are we going into all of these countries... things are much worse than they've ever been... no improvement whatsoever... before September 11 we were spending $40 billion a year and we IGNORED ALL THE EVIDENCE...

... it isn't a country... al Qaeda is bigger than ever before... we've incited the Arab countries...

What do we do with the terrorists now ask Mika it seems to try them in regular court isn't the way to go...

Paul responds ...conditioned by the media... all are suspects... we put them in secret places... if have a reason hold them that's one thing... but why do we have secret prisons all around the world... violating the principles our FF put into our Constitution...

Exactly. That's the danger. The secrecy. The naming of anybody at any time for an unknown public reason - that is the danger - to all of our freedoms.

Paul understands that. Not only is the secrecy a danger to all of our freedoms, out-of-the sunlight of the public's focus, even if the public is represented by media, who is to say that evidence is not 'manufactured' against the detainees or enemy combatants.

Susan Rice talking on CNN

Get the transcript.

Advisor to McCain Campaign says Obama should be asked about habeas corpus and bin Laden...

Rice... McCaion in 2003 said people in Gitmo should be charged or released.

Rice to deal with bin Laden if he is captured that would have to be military or judicial process that is how we put people away or use the death penalty...

Net the Truth Online

TRANSCRIPT: Jake Tapper Interviews Barack Obama
Presumptive Democratic Nominee on Gay Marriage, Education & the General Election

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TAPPER: Speaking of the Supreme Court, you applauded the decision that the Supreme Court made last week. The Bush administration says, no matter what people think about other programs, other policies they've initiated, there has not been a terrorist attack within the U.S. since 9/11. And they say the reason that is, is because of the domestic programs, many of which you opposed, the NSA surveillance program, Guantanamo Bay, and other programs.

How do you know that they're wrong? It's not possible that they're right?

OBAMA: Well, keep in mind I haven't opposed, for example, the national security surveillance program, the NSA program. What I've said that we can do it within the constraints of our civil liberties and our Constitution.

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OBAMA: Well, but the fact that they disagree does not mean that they're right on this. What it means is, is that they have been willing to skirt basic protections that are in our Constitution, that our founders put in place.

And it is my firm belief that we can track terrorists, we can crack down on threats against the United States, but we can do so within the constraints of our Constitution. And there has been no evidence on their part that we can't.

And, you know, let's take the example of Guantanamo. What we know is that, in previous terrorist attacks -- for example, the first attack against the World Trade Center, we were able to arrest those responsible, put them on trial. They are currently in U.S. prisons, incapacitated.

And the fact that the administration has not tried to do that has created a situation where not only have we never actually put many of these folks on trial, but we have destroyed our credibility when it comes to rule of law all around the world, and given a huge boost to terrorist recruitment in countries that say, "Look, this is how the United States treats Muslims."

So that, I think, is an example of something that was unnecessary. We could have done the exact same thing, but done it in a way that was consistent with our laws.

CNN Transcript Susan Rice interview

Laurie Milroie

January 23, 2004, 8:38 a.m.
Mishandling Terrorism
The law-enforcement mistake.
By Laurie Mylroie

TRANSCRIPT: Jake Tapper Interviews Barack Obama
Presumptive Democratic Nominee on Gay Marriage, Education & the General Election
June 16, 2008

McCain Camp Hits Obama for Terrorism Remarks
Praise of 1993 World Trade Center Bombers Prosecution 'Naïve' and 'Dangerous,' Campaign Says
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ABC News video

Obama Defends Gitmo Decision
Senator says detainees could have been put on trial like after first WTC attack.


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