Monday, May 02, 2011

Is it really Osama Bin Laden? Dr. Baden Answers Raise Questions

Reportedly, Osama Bin Laden has been killed in Pakistan by CIA intel with the help of Navy Seals.

Osama bin Laden is killed by U.S. forces in Pakistan

Fox New: Osama bin Laden killed

Matt Drudge headline


Yahoo News

US kills Osama bin Laden decade after 9/11 attacks

This morning, just before before 9 am EST, with several guests one after the other, Fox 'n Friends discussed the reports that Osama Bin Laden had been killed in Pakistan, then with guest Dr. Baden, the trio specifically raised the question:

(At this early time) How do we know it is really Osama Bin Laden who has been killed.

They bantered for a while with Dr. Baden, facial recognition, fingerprints, bio-data, DNA?

The question arose again: How do we know this was Osama Bin Laden specifically through DNA?

The discussion was really fascinating.

Dr. Baden's comments were hesitant on facial recognition (especially if the reports are true and Osama Bin Laden had been shot in the head, duh) a little more clear on the potential for fingerprinting confirming identity, but certainly not 100% (that on site testing again), then Dr. Baden proposed the following regarding bio-data/DNA:

"DNA can be determined within about 24 hours. They (meaning medical professionals on scene in Pakistan) must have done it in less than 5 hours"

Nobody on Fox 'n Friends asked follow-up questions after Dr. Baden's thought-provoking pronouncements.

The matter that was on the Fox 'n Friends trio's minds, how is it known for sure that was Osama Bin Laden who was killed, was no longer of any importance.

Why didn't anybody press Dr. Baden on the odd comment after Baden noted DNA can be determined within 24 hours - "they must have done it in less than 5 hours."

Then we find these two interesting headlines

Drudge headline DNA tests won't be complete for days...

Yahoo news headline, U.S. tests bin Laden's DNA, used facial ID: official

U.S. tests bin Laden's DNA, used facial ID: official
Mon May 2, 2:20 am ET

The United States is conducting DNA testing on slain al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and used facial recognition techniques to help identify him, a U.S. official said on Monday.

Bin Laden was identified by the assault force that killed him in a firefight in Pakistan in which he resisted and was shot in the head, the official said on condition of anonymity.

Results of the DNA tests should be available in the next few days, the official told Reuters.

The strike force was on the ground for less than 40 minutes and the operation was watched real-time by CIA Director Leon Panetta and other intelligence officials in a conference room at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, the official said.

the problem is the headline of the Yahoo piece makes it seem as though the word official applies to the DNA test (and facial recognition) and thus it has already been confirmed by DNA tests Osama Bin Laden is dead.

The Drudge headline read accurately per the Yahoo News text within the body of the article:

Results of the DNA tests should be available in the next few days, the official told Reuters.

We are just puzzled by Dr. Baden's comment "they must have done it in 5 hours."

We're wondering why it was so important for Dr. Baden to allow that DNA testing had confirmed Osama Bin Laden is dead especially when he had just explained a 24-hour time period was possible.

Could it be that Dr. Baden's two divergent answers revealed the real potential for the military and President Barack Obama to be jumping the gun so to speak on the announcement Osama Bin Laden is dead, has indeed been killed by U.S. forces?

Why not wait the 24 hours at least to confirm DNA tests are accurate and this was Osama Bin Laden who was killed by U.S. forces? Or even a few days, because according to the noted prominent Drudge Report headline, DNA test results wouldn't be known, for days!

The Fox 'n Friends group also discussed whether Osama Bin Laden's remains would be 'buried' at sea. Will they use weights so the body doesn't wash back up on shore? Dr. Baden agreed it would be gruesome if body parts washed up onto shore.

We kid you not, the discussion was FASCINATING!

We couldn't help but wonder why Osama Bin Laden's body would not be brought back to the United States to make absolutely certain it is Osama Bin Laden and not yet another potential 'double?'

Notice, too, when speaking, the trio used the name Osama Bin Laden.

The ticker-tape running across the screen reads Usama bin Laden, however.

Maybe it's because the ticker-tape message changes periodically to President Obama or just Obama.

It is interesting as well that reports are Osama Bin Laden has 'already' been buried at sea.

Finally, now we find this headline

AP publishes, retracts photo of bin Laden's dead body

Wire service admits it cannot independently verify identity of person in picture
--Pasadena Star-News, California

Net the Truth Online

UPDATED 12:33 a.m.: AP retracts photo purporting to show Osama bin Laden's dead bodyPosted: 05/01/2011 11:14:26 PM PDT

The Associated Press has retracted a photograph released late Sunday night purporting to show the dead body of terror mastermind Osama bin Laden.
AP announced that it cannot independently verify that the person in the photo is Osama bin Laden nor can it confirm the source.

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