Barnacle asked: How are we going to pay for this?
Sebelius responded: We need to change healthcare...
Barnacle asked: How is this going to be paid for?
Sebelius responded: We need to lower costs...
Her answers didn't answer the direct question posed two different ways.
How are we - taxpayers - going to pay for this via the federal government program?
In other words, if (approximately 46 million)(according to reports)(the number keeps rising because people keep dropping out of the private programs expecting public-funded replacement healthcare insurance and assurance)(no matter their unhealthy lifestyle choices) more people need insurance, but aren't acquiring insurance by paying in through private business employer/employee split insurance programs, how are the rest of the taxpayers going to pay for those who will use the new healthcare program but are not expected to chip in?
Another consideration, guess who currently is statistically the largest employer in the U.S.? Right, government. For the first time in history, government entities now employ more individuals than all the few left manufacturing plants, private business entities and banks too big to fail, and little mom 'n pop stores - combined!
Wouldn't it be interesting to discover that there are also now more than can be imagined illegal aliens who are included, yes included in the numbers cited 46 million uninsured?
ILLEGAL ALIENS AND EMTALA
Dr. Madeleine Cosman, Ph.D., ESQ
March 23, 2005
NewsWithViews.com
http://www.newswithviews.com/Cosman/madeleine.htm
2003 June 22 Sunday
Illegal Immigration Drives Up Number Of Medically Uninsured
Bruce Crawford argues that the high percentage of illegal immigrants with few skills and with less than a high school education is driving down wages among the poorest sector of society while driving up the number of people who have no medical insurance.
It is true since 1989 the national population without health insurance has grown by 7.8 million to 41.2 million in 2001. This is almost exactly the incease in the number of illegals in the U.S. When one counts both immigrants and children born to them, over 95 percent of the increase in uninsureds is the result of immigration, more than half of which (by some estimates, 70 percent) is attributable to illegal immigration.
This is a plausible argument. The level of uninsured among the Hispanic population in the United States is much higher than that of other ethnic and racial groups.
http://www.parapundit.com/archives/001395.html
Uninsured Immigrants Burden the Health Care System
Health Care News October 2001
Written By: A Camarota and James R. Edwards Jr.
Published In: Health Care News > October 2001
Publication date: 10/01/2001
Publisher: The Heartland Institute
Managing Editor’s note: The increase in the number of people without health insurance is one of the our most troubling social trends. An under-reported study from the Center for Immigration Studies finds the nation's health insurance crisis is being driven to a measurable degree by immigration policy.
The study, "Without Coverage: Immigration's Impact on the Size and Growth of the Population Lacking Health Insurance," was written by the Center's director of research, Steven A. Camarota, and James R. Edwards Jr. of the Hudson Institute. It offers detailed information, based on Census Bureau data, on immigrant and native insurance coverage at the national level, as well as for the major immigrant-receiving states and cities.
http://www.heartland.org/policybot/results/456/Uninsured_Immigrants_Burden_the_Health_Care_System.html
August 28, 2007 Right Truth
Almost half of uninsured in America are illegal aliens - UPDATED II
Poverty is down and median income is up, according to just released census figures 2006, Current Population Survey. (pdf) Reporting: Molly Henneberg, Fox News Channel.
2006: number of uninsured in America 47 million people, or 15.8% of the population.
2005: number of uninsured in America 44.8 million people, or 15.3% of the population.
Joseph Antos, American Enterprise Institute, looks inside the numbers, because they are very misleading.
uninsured who are NOT U.S. CITIZENS IS 45% of the 47 million.
Broken down by age, 18 - 24 years old - 29.3% of the 47 million.
25 - 35 years old - 26.9% of the 47 million.
http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2007/08/health-care-hyp.html
Health Care Lie: '47 Million Uninsured Americans'
http://action.publicbroadcasting.net/wosu/posts/list/1542810.page
From: Cafe, Election Central
Obama, Illegal immigrants and Health Insurance
By AM - July 27, 2008, 6:28PM
They reported that Obama has stated (showed a clip of a debate) that he
does not plan insuring the illegal immigrants in this country. He
stated his reason as "we have limited resources." Then they said
that he has stated many times his intention to insure the 47 million
uninsured people in this country, and that 40% of those are
illegal. Then CNN quickly moved onto something else...
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/07/obama-illegal-immigrants-and-h.php
Net the Truth Online
By Donna Smith Donna Smith – Wed May 6, 3:42 pm ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on Wednesday said a proposed government health insurance plan backed by President Barack Obama would compete with private insurers rather than lead to a socialized system as Republicans claim.
In her first appearance before a congressional panel since taking office, Sebelius fielded questions about a new government health plan that would help cover the estimated 46 million uninsured Americans.
"Dismantling the private market ... is not something the president supports. He supports moving forward and filling the gap, not disrupting the entire market," Sebelius told the House Ways and Means Committee.
Republican and private insurers argue that a government-run plan would drive insurance companies out of business. Sebelius said it would inject competition in the market, keep costs low and help cover the uninsured.
Obama has not put forward a specific plan and is leaving it to the Democratic-controlled Congress to write the legislation.
Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel said how the plan they proposed would operate and what benefits it would offer depended largely on costs.
Sebelius said several states offer public insurance plans to their employees, taking on the underlying risk but contracting with private insurers to operate the plan.
Obama wants an overhaul of the $2.5 trillion U.S. healthcare industry passed by the end of the year. The ambitious undertaking has become more urgent amid soaring health costs and rising U.S. unemployment that is leaving many workers without their employer-sponsored health insurance.
"The costs of the current system are unacceptable and unsustainable," Sebelius told the committee.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090506/pl_nm/us_usa_healthcare_overhaul
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