Showing posts with label iowa caucus. Show all posts
Showing posts with label iowa caucus. Show all posts

Thursday, January 03, 2008

Hillary Clinton Her Slipperyness Part 100 K look into my mouth

What a doozy of a quote by Miss Take Me or Leave Me Hillary Clinton on a stage usually used to auction cattle in Iowa. Fox 'n Friends picked up on the comments, but surprisingly, Steve Doocy, the more humorous of the anchors, made absolutely no fun of her remark, which surely should go down in history as the most quoted quote second only to "it depends what the meaning of is, is" made by her husband, former President of the USA.

Seriously now folks, who could vote for a woman who stayed with a man who cheated on her innumerable times solely for the goal of attempting to make a run herself for the presidency some day. Even if by some stretch of the imagination a misguided majority of voters put her in the White House, who on this earth actually doesn't believe she will kick Bill out next day?

She's already playing the game right in your faces. She's made the statement if she doesn't come in first place in Iowa she's advising her supporters there to vote for Edwards over Obama as she'd do better afterwards with Edwards in the lead than Obama.

Well duh, if Obama comes out first in Iowa that's a clear message that the Clintons are simply not acceptable enough to a Democratic base that wants a clear liberal as their candidate and not someone who makes statements like "look into my mouth."

What a gaffe. A Youtuber already picked up on the image that evokes. Really, diehard Clinton supporters need a wake up shot - one that will make them take a second look - shake their heads - and wave bye bye bye.

Newsweek
Taking the Lead: After years of counseling Bill, she is now in charge
By Sally Bedell Smith
Dec. 31, 2007-Jan. 7, 2008 issue

At a recent campaign stop at an Iowa livestock auction, Hillary Rodham Clinton told voters, "I know you're going to inspect me. You can look inside my mouth if you want." It's not often that a candidate for president issues such an invitation, but Clinton is doing whatever she can to emphasize that she can withstand scrutiny of her long experience in politics. For months she has been saying that her years as First Lady give her an edge over the other candidates, making her "ready to lead from day one."

Is Hillary Clinton truly as "experienced" as she makes herself out to be—and is the experience she gained as First Lady the kind that matters in choosing a president? The answer is not to be found by looking inside her mouth. But it is worth taking another look inside the eight years she spent in the White House.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/81600


New York Observer
Hillary, 'Pumped,' Tries a New Look in Iowa
by Jason Horowitz | December 17, 2007

...After disembarking from what her campaign is calling the “Hillicopter,” Mrs. Clinton mounted a stage built around a pen used for auctioning livestock, and covered with bunting and bags that said “Beef: a Steak in the Future.” The smell of livestock was overpowering.

It could have been awkward, but to Mrs. Clinton’s credit, she played right along.

"I've been to cattle barns before and sales before, in Arkansas, but I've never felt like I was the one that was being bid on," Clinton told the crowd in the auction barn, many of whom wore cowboy hats. "I know you're going to inspect me. You can look inside my mouth if you want. I hope by the end of my time with you I can make the case for my candidacy and to ask you to consider caucusing for me."

http://www.observer.com/2007/hillary-pumped-tries-new-look-iowa


Buffalo News

http://www.buffalonews.com/180/story/240198.html

Iowa Caucus Watch Vote Scam in Progress

The Iowa caucus process was smooth, wouldn't all agree. No automated electronic voting machines were used to vote. By my watch, CNN and Fox News networks called Huckabee the winner virtually simultaneously at 8:56 PM!

Around 9:29 Obama was declared the winner by Fox News. Switch to CNN same, with vote total by Obama's name = 580 votes!

That's right. Obama called the winner with 580 votes and Huckabee called the winner with 14,045.

Fascinating to watch the newscasters looking at the percentages and the results in real time they had to keep checking and inquiring were these from the "entrance" polling stats or the raw vote totals, they would pose the question aloud.

Can you believe it? Of course, the results later on in the evening increased in numbers.

But the important point is the winners had already been declared quickly and according to the news reporters based on their information from entrance results and raw vote numbers.

ABC news also kept the rundown going in real time. And posted the results simultaneously to the cable networks.

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=IA

Discussion also centered on the huge increase in first time caucus goers. Doesn't that raise anyone's eyebrows? According to one reporter, first timers for the Democrats were some 56 percent.

In addition, the process there included new registration right then on the spot. An Independent registered voter could walk in and declare himself a Democrat. A Republican registered voter could walk in and declare herself a Democrat.

Then there's the requirement of "viability" in the caucus room. A candidate had to mount at least 15 percent or face exclusion.

It really does seem as if it was a Party Game. Almost like musical chairs.

Who knows who really won in Iowa anyway?

Js throws in some numbers about the Republican voter turnout. It would be interesting to determine whether there may have been an actual decline in registered Republicans who showed up and then actually voted as a Democrat for purposes of skewing the Democrat results. In other words, if there was a higher percentage than in the past of Republicans who arrived to vote, and 70 percent or more were evangelicals, there may have been some jockeying going on to influence the Democrat caucus with party switches.

Also, how was there any control over who registered to vote that evening? Given the Motor Voter Act and the hesitancy to ask anybody for proof of voter residency or citizenship status when voting it's possible the increases in voter turnout weren't even pre-registered Iowa voters.

The likelihood for election fraud being committed in the reporting of votes cannot go unnoticed either.

Declared winner with less votes than people watching reruns of the X-Files that night - doesn't say much for that process.

http://netthetruthonline.blogspot.com/2008/01/iowa-caucus-watch-vote-scam-in-progress.html

Update Numbers available across the internet

By 8:56 PM CNN called Huckabee the clear winner of the Iowa Caucus... that was fast. Maybe voting without the electronic voting machines and in small groups, works. Hmmm. The registration system has to be tightened, though...

Fox News calls winner of Democrat Caucus Barack Obama with what 580 votes? 9:29 PM

CNN calls Barack Obama the winner.

Net the Truth Online

Looks like they are all getting the same numbers from somewhere.

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=IA

Democratic Primary ResultsThursday, January 3
Real-time Race Results: Updated January 3, 2008 - 9:30 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 75%
Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner
Obama 618 36% 0 Winner
Edwards 530 31% 0
Clinton 527 30% 0
Richardson 33 2% 0
Biden 17 1% 0
Dodd 1 0% 0
Gravel 0 0% 0
Kucinich 0 0% 0
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Estimated Delegates: 40Republican Primary ResultsThursday, January 3
Real-time Race Results: Updated January 3, 2008 - 9:11 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 40%
Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner
Huckabee 14,045 31% 0 Winner
Romney 10,084 23% 0
Thompson 5,950 13% 0
McCain 5,194 12% 0
Giuliani 4,901 11% 0
Paul 4,379 10% 0
Hunter 168 0% 0

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=IA



Isn't this the silliest way to conduct selection of political party candidates? The entire system is ripe for election and voter fraud and abuse.

The morning guest on Fox 'n Friends noted individuals can actually show up at the door, doors open at 7 PM, and register of one political party or the other.

Guess one does have to show they are a resident of the state, but maybe not due to the federal imposed Motor Voter Act and all the controversy over illegal aliens having to prove they are citizens before obtaining a driver's license.

so hey, anybody from any state can make the trek to Iowa, say they are planning to reside in Iowa, in the process of moving, choose an apartment address, (maybe just fork over a month's deposit, or maybe simply obtain a post office mail box), and show up at the caucus.

Then, at the caucus participants actually get to vote more than once. That's right. If candidates don't get at least 15 percent of the gathered votes, they are out of contention. The voters present get to vote again, for another choice.

Unbelievable.

Update 7 PM EST: And the vote fraud begins. Caucus goers are arriving. Republicans will take a straw poll, says Wolf Blitzer on CNN's live broadcasting.

Democrats do things a bit differently. We won't get raw vote totals, they only use the percentages, says Blitzer, unaffected by what that might mean.

Oh such fun. No wonder Black Box Voting is hopping.

Who will tabulate the party caucus results? BBV discusses in depth.

It's meaningless, though, isn't it. Independents can show up and register as one or the other, and have a say in the selection.

And according to CNN, a registered member of a party can show up and change party registration right there on the spot, thus voting for a candidate of the other party.

Oh that should put a twist in things.

What a game. Not only that. The candidates have strategized should it appear they are not going to get this viable 15 percent, they are telling their supporters in the caucus to support an opponent, one they think they can beat in the next state, and the next.

Again, silliest way to conduct an election.

CNN reporter is noting that over 50 percent of the Democrats who showed up are new caucus goers.

Fox News noted in a chart the number at 56 percent first time caucus goers.

Well, what did we speculate. Are they actually residents of Iowa?

Fox News is having fun determing which election ticker chart is the Republican Straw Poll, which chart is the raw actual vote, which chart is real numbers.

Really, nobody will know anything for sure at the end of this weird process.

Juan williams on Fox News stating that Iowa is 95 percent white residents.

It will be interesting to find out if the number of registered voters, and the projected turnout, equal the number of voters who actually voted during this process.

Net the Truth Online

Real Clear Politics people were featured on Fox News coverage

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

CNN Transcripts galore

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2008.01.03.html

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/sitroom.html

Black Box Voting Forum Discussion on Iowa Caucus
In Iowa, neither party has been releasing the precinct results that provide the underlying verification for the totals they announce -- a procedure so top-heavy it should come with a laugh track. Black Box Voting and many Iowa citizens have been expressing concern, and urging the release of the data for the 1,900 precincts to back up the announced total.

While it's true that each precinct vote result assigns delegates according to the vote, and those delegates go to a county convention to cast votes (though this is nonbinding), in fact the delegate votes never match the original caucus results, because the county convention is held months after the caucus, and in 2008 will take place after Super Duper Tuesday. Many candidates drop out by the time the convention rolls around, and votes are readjusted.

Caucuses are not subject to freedom of information through public records, because technically the parties are private corporations and do not have to release their documents. Therefore, the caucuses have some built-in impediments to transparency.

Black Box Voting has been raising questions and seeking answers. We've been mailing letters to our Iowa constituents, blogging, and distributing questions and concerns through the voting rights circuitry.

Here's what we've learned so far, revealing some good news and citizen action still needed to prod one of the parties into publicly accounting for its results.

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/71028.html?1199244110


Black Box Voting Watch Reports



1-3-08: What to do! Iowa Caucus instructions for everyone
You don't live in Iowa? Doesn't matter. Pitch in!

IF YOU ARE NOT IN IOWA: During the event: Monitor Democratic Web site http://www.iowacaucusreults.com and capture screen shots at regular intervals. Republican county results will be posted at http://www.iowagop.net -THIS JUST IN: Republican precinct results will be posted at end of the night. Observe whether there are any results that go up or down or change after they have been posted.

If you spot anomalies, propagate documentation (like screen shots) to 3-5 places (relevant web sites, appropriate email lists).

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/71119.html?1199404367

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/71105.html?1199386745

DISCUSSION AREA
Iowa forums at Black Box Voting

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/143/143.html

Useful Info Iowa Caucuses

http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/143/143.html

Basic facts on the Iowa Caucuses
Associated Press

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080102/ap_on_el_pr/iowa_caucuses_q_a

Previewing the Iowa Caucuses
Christopher C. Hull
Author, "Grassroots Rules: How the Iowa Caucus Helps Elect American Presidents"
Thursday, January 3, 2008; 11:00 AM

Former majority staff director of the Iowa Senate Christopher C. Hull, who recently wrote " Grassroots Rules: How the Iowa Caucus Helps Elect American Presidents," was online Thursday, Jan. 3 at 11 a.m. ET from Iowa to answer readers' questions about the caucuses, how they work, and how he sees them playing out Thursday night.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2007/12/27/DI2007122702055.html

Op-Ed Columnist
The Slice of the Sliver Speaks
By GAIL COLLINS
Published: January 3, 2008

As the presidential candidates tell them every single day, Iowans deserve to be the nation’s kingmakers because they are exceptional citizens who take their responsibilities very, very seriously. So tonight, even though it’s very cold — even though it’s Hokies vs. Jayhawks in the Orange Bowl — the sturdy Iowa voters will pull on their parkas and go out to fulfill their historic destiny. Perhaps as many as 15 percent of them!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/03/opinion/03collins.html?ex=1357102800&en=b022adc78a540174&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

TailRank Forum

http://tailrank.com/4477491/The-Slice-of-the-Sliver-Speaks