Showing posts with label airport full body scanners. Show all posts
Showing posts with label airport full body scanners. Show all posts

Tuesday, November 16, 2010

TSA:No Right of Refusal Scanner Pat-Downs if Baggage Conveyed

Can you believe this is happening? We can.

Civil penalty possible if airport body scan, pat-down rejected
By Tom Fontaine
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, November 16, 2010

Airline passengers don't have a right to refuse security screening after placing carry-on bags on conveyor belts at airport checkpoints, according to the Transportation Security Administration.
It doesn't matter if a person worries that body scanners emit radiation or produce graphic images, or considers the alternative -- a pat-down search -- as too hands-on.

Those were among objections a California man gave when he refused to be screened Saturday in a San Diego airport. The man opted to turn around and go home but said he was threatened with legal action as he left the checkpoint area.

The TSA on Monday defended its actions, touching off arguments among travelers and legal experts.

Body scanners "safely screen passengers for metallic and nonmetallic threats to help keep the traveling public safe," said spokeswoman Ann Davis. Such screening is optional, she said, but passengers who decline must undergo alternate screening that includes "a thorough pat-down."

Independent studies showed radiation from the screeners does not present a risk, Davis said. Some pilots are concerned about cumulative effects if they pass through a scanner several times a day and several days a week, said Sam Mayer, a Boeing 767 captain and spokesman for the Allied Pilots Association.

The agency's representatives two weeks ago started using their palms and fingers to probe for hidden weapons and other devices in pat-down searches. In the past, screeners used the back of their hands to brush past sensitive body parts.

Anyone who refuses screening would be subject to civil penalty, Davis said, in addition to being denied access beyond a security checkpoint or onto a flight. She couldn't say whether the agency fined anyone for refusing to be screened, but she said less than 1 percent of passengers require pat-down searches. The TSA has 300 full-body scanners operational in 60 U.S. airports, including five in Pittsburgh, and will deploy more.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/transportation/s_709528.html


There is more. See how Judges are enabling the federal government, and so-called experts agree it's A OK.

Civil penalty possible if airport body scan, pat-down rejected
By Tom Fontaine
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, November 16, 2010

A 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals opinion issued in 2007 supports the TSA's stance.

"The constitutionality of an airport screening search does not depend on consent, and requiring that a potential passenger be allowed to revoke consent to an ongoing airport security search makes little sense in a post-9/11 world," the opinion reads.

Allowing a passenger to revoke consent "would afford terrorists multiple opportunities to attempt to penetrate airport security by 'electing not to fly' on the cusp of detection until a vulnerable portal is found," the opinion said.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/transportation/s_709528.html

Monday, November 15, 2010

Mo McGowan: Nobody likes Airport Scanners 4th Amendment Violation But

Mo McGowan speaking on Fox News this morning and asked about the full body scanners and pat downs mandated by the federal government to be used at airports which some are criticizing and in some cases refusing to comply responded:

"Nobody likes their 4th Amendment Rights Violated going through a security line, but the truth is we have to do it... wouldn't you want your children and grandchildren protected by using this and other means necessary to thwart attack..."

see Fox video of interview with McGowan

November 15, 2010

Backlash Against Airport Body Scans
Traveler records confrontation after he refused full body scan and pat down

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4419443/backlash-against-airport-body-scans/?playlist_id=87937


Ah yes. Use the safety of our children and grandchildren to sell this travesty to what the Founding Framers of the United States Constitution intended.

Worse, McGowan admits our 4th Amendment rights exist and are thus violated by the full body scanners and the pat-downs.

Meanwhile, making the rounds of some news programs, a potential traveler refuses the full body scan with the words: "I don't think so..."

Fox News video report clip of traveler who used cell phone to record encounter

November 15, 2010

National Debate Over Full-Body Scanners
Travelers' group calls for boycott of airport scanners

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4419495/national-debate-over-full-body-scanners/?playlist_id=87937


Here's the story from anonymous posting at johnnyedge.blogspot

http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html

California man confronting procedures records on cellphone beware graphic

November 15, 2010

Backlash Against Airport Body Scans
Traveler records confrontation after he refused full body scan and pat down

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4419443/backlash-against-airport-body-scans/?playlist_id=87937


Lew Rockwell's blog notes a contribution entitled:

The Porno Scanner-Spangled Banner
Posted by Lew Rockwell on November 8, 2010 09:01 AM
Writes Robert Frasconi

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/68798.html


Graphic descriptions beware but be wary of hands=on pat-downs

Daedalus Shrugged
by William Norman Grigg

http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w180.html


Meanwhile, a Reuters poll on the issue reveals an astonishing 2 percent of respondents think these extreme measures are just A OK and necessary and are not affecting personal flight plans.

Are new security screenings affecting your decision to fly?
Nov 12, 2010 13:02 EST

http://blogs.reuters.com/ask/2010/11/12/are-new-security-screenings-affecting-your-decision-to-fly/?cp=5


98 percent think the measures are not OK, while another 2 percent are well just the undecideds.

What can we do? Apparently, nothing, as parents are willing to subject their own children to the concept of governmental Authority rules, even when your rights are violated by such. Imagine the children of the future after a few years of this.

Stand there. Raise your hands up high. Bend over. Lift up your leg. Lift up your other leg. All under the absolutely ignorant gaze of parent puppets, and people like Mo McGowen with excuse after excuse as to why the government must do this to save you and protect you.

We're not buying it. Neither should the other air travelers.

All it would take is one day of full non-compliance by ticket holders who in tandem stand and refuse to be scanned or patted down. Make a daisy chain holding hands around the entirety of the airport in every single airport in the country and refuse to be subjected to this violation of your 4th Amendment rights. Turned away from flight. Do so. Stand in lines to submit a complaint and try to obtain a refund. If you are refused a refund, hold onto your ticket and exit the airport all at the same time in a single orderly file.

Imagine thousands of ticket-holding customers all sending in a photocopy of tickets, and demanding a full refund from the airlines.

When that is not forthcoming, find a freedom-loving attorney somewhere in this country who will take the case on.

Soon

We've heard some like Bill O'Reilly guest Laura Ingraham exclaim flying is not a right, it's a privilege.

She should talk to Mo McGowan who at least has admitted the airport full body scans and pat-downs are a violation of the constitutional 4th Amendment rights of travelers.

Fox is also reporting there is a website devoted to a day before Thanksgiving opt out. but unfortunately the only thing suggested to opt out of is the full body scan!

Can you believe that. OK opt into the pat-down, dummies. You can still travel, raise a little protest by making things go a bit slower, but you can still get to travel = yes you can...

Net the Truth Online

More from Lew Rockwell blog

Mad Dogs of the TSA
Porno-scan, porno-grope, $10,000 fine, cops throw him out of the airport. What happened to John Tyner.

If We Think Beating the TSA Is All
May our chains rest lightly on our wrists, says Brian Travis.


Orbitz, Thanks
But you must do more against the TSA, says Kathryn Muratore

http://www.lewrockwell.com/